65°C Bread Loaf
There are many ways to bake or make bread. One of the rave in the recent years is the 65°C TangZhong (湯種) method which is said to produce soft and bouncy bread which keeps well too.
What is TangZhong (湯種)?
Apparently TangZhong dates back to ages ago where the Chinese uses hot water to cook their flour for dough which is used in the making of all sorts of noodles and dumpling skins. In recent years, this has extended to the use in the baking of bread and buns.
What is so different about this 65°C TangZhong then?
The difference lies in the temperature of the water used. In 65°C TangZhong the flour and water mixture is cooked to 65°C. At 65°C, the gluten in the flour absorbs the moisture and become leavened. This moisture absorbed at 65°C is then mixed to the main ingredients of the bread and hence the moisture in the bread dough will be heightened. The end result will be a softer and bouncier bread.
How to make 65°C TangZhong?
I used 250ml water and 50g bread flour.
Mix flour and water till it is smooth in a small saucepan.
Cook over medium heat and stirring constantly with a hand whisk to prevent burning. You will see lots of small bubbles forming on the top. Keep stirring and when the bubbles disappear, you will see streaks in the mixture for every stir you make with your whisk. Stop at this stage and you will have the 65°C TangZhong.

Pour the hot TangZhong into a bowl and cover it with a piece of glad wrap with the wrap touching the surface of the mixture. This is to prevent a film from forming on the TangZhong.

Leave the 65°C TangZhong to cool till room temperature before using it. Leftover TangZhong can be kept refrigerated and should be used within 3 days. All chilled TangZhong must return to room temperature before using. If your chilled TangZhong has turned greyish in colour, you should discard it.
This is the bread loaf that I made using 65°C TangZhong.

Texture of bread.

I used my bread machine to do the dough kneading twice in the dough cycle and achieve the membrane stage of the dough. If you achieve the membrane stage, it means that your bread is kneaded to the best stage.

Ingredients:
250g bread flour
1 tbsp skim milk powder
80g TangZhong
105ml warm water
4g salt
25g sugar
5g dry yeast
25g butter
Method:
1. Dump all ingredients into the bread machine and start the dough cycle.
2. Once the dough cycle is completed which is 80 minutes for my bread machine, remove dough and punch out the air from it. Rest the dough for 15 minutes.
3. Divide dough into 2 pieces, shape into a long rectangular shape and roll it up swiss-roll style.
4. Place dough pieces into loaf pan and let it prove till about 85% full. I had to prove for about 75 minutes as the room temperature was about 19°C.
5. Cover the loaf pan with its lid and bake at 175 - 180°C for about 25 - 30 minutes.
Labels: Bread n Buns


109 Comments:
Florence, thank you for your info on the two Taiwanese Bread Books...my brother is familar with the book company you mentioned so I am hoping he can buy the books for me.
I had made bread using the Tang Zhong method and indeed, the breads are super soft and wonderful...however, I could never attain the 65C temp (using an instant thermometer to measure) so I went by another blogger's suggestion (if I can see the pot bottom during stirring, cook another minute more)....do you actually take the temp of the 'paste' you are making?
Hi Florence, thanks for this recipe. It looks great and fluffy. I don't have a bread maker at home and was wondering if you had any ideas on how I can still make it without one?
Hi Florence,
I have the same concern as Kim. Can we still make it without a bread maker machine?
Mindy
Hi Florence, would like to ask if you followed the recipe from YTower? Do we have to measure the temperature while making the 'Tang Zhong'? Will it be possible if we use the electric mixer to knead the dough? I don't have a bread machine. :p
Appreciate you can shed some light.
Many thanks
Rei
Hi Florence, your bread looks so soft and fluffy! You make me so tempted to try out this tang zhong method even though I do not have much confidence. I'll try it one day when I think I have the time and patience. Hee...:)
Florence, I've seen this Tang Zhong method in one of my bread books, but have never understood it. Thanks for your detailed explanation. May try it one day.
Hi Florence,
So coincident! I just borrowed a book "65 deg C 汤种面包" by Yvonne C from the library! All the bakes looks so good! Have not tried yet, was put off by the method. However, after seeing your successful bakes was tempted to try soon. :)
May I know how do you measure the temperature? Do you use an instant read thermometer? MH
Hi Florence,
Can i bake the entire bread using the breadmaker(e.g., from dough stage to final bake)? TQ.
asan,
I did not measure the temperature, I just do with feel.
kim and mindy,
If you don't have a bread machine as do the bread as in how you would do it manually.
Rei,
I did not follow the Ytower recipe. My reference is 65C from Taiwan and hot water dough from Japan.
You can use the electric mixer to knead your dough if you don't have a bread maker.
I did not measure the temperature. Once the bubbles disappear when stirring and you can see streaks as in my photo you can actually stop the cooking process.
kwf,
You're welcome.
myhomekitchen,
Good! If you have the 65C book by Yvonne Chan, you should try it. I was prompted to try when I visited a Japanese bakery and saw the Chef/Pastisseur doing something similar but the Japanese style.
Must try!
mycoffee,
Yes, you can definitely bake the whole thing with your bread maker. Do let me know how it turns out ok!
I baked some stuffed buns yesterday using the tang zhong method and indeed the buns were soft and fluffy...my DS devoured them! This time, I did not bother to take the temperature as I could never attain the 65D before but your picture of the paste helped me gauge when to take the pot off the stove. I did not cook to this correct stage before...thank you so much. I truly treasure your blog, recipes and pictures! BTW, I will be able to order the two bread books from 66emart.com so I am excited now.
Hi Florence,
I'm curious and really eager to try out your Tang Zhong method to bake breads. Should there be no unforseen circumstances, i'll be baking sausage buns with this Tang Zhong method tomorrow night. I hope it turns out as soft and yummy as your baked breads....shall let you know the result ya!
TIA for sharing the recipes! Luv your website a lot ;)
Hi Florence,
If I want to make a sweet bun, can I follow this recipe and increase the sugar to about 50-60g? Would I have to add extra yeast or anything?
Or should I follow your basic dough recipe provided for Choc Wassant and use that as my basic sweet bread?
Thank you so much for your guidance.
Hi,
Just increase sugar will do. :)
Hi Florence,
250ml water and 50g bread flour call for how much of the TangZhong?
I would like to try your chocolate wassant recipe but do not know how much flour and water to use to get 100g of Tangzhong.
please advise
Hi Florence,
Tried your Tang Zhong method today....i actually made sausage buns with the 65DC bread loaf recipe you posted. I find the dough a bit too sticky to handle after the proofing, i added a little more bread flour when shaping the sausage buns...
After baking them in oven, my goodness!!!... Its texture is super soft and it's really yummy! This recipe is certainly a keeper!! Thank you very much Florence.
Florence, thanks for your post on the tangzhong method. It was so clear and concise that I was able to successfully make the first loaf manually since I do not possess a breadmaker. My question is if I want to make it more healthy and make a wholewheat loaf, how can I use the tangzhong? What should the proportions of wheat flour be in relation to the tangzhong and plain bread flour?
Hi Florence,
How much TZ do I know I have to use? If I want to bake wholemeal bread with 125g bread flour, 125g wholemeal flour & 125ml water, how much TZ do I use? And how much remaining ingredients do I add for bread flour, wholemeal flour and water? Can you advise please? Thank you.
Passionate about baking,
For me I will use:
150g bread flour
100g wholemeal flour
110g water/milk or (30g egg + 80g liquid)
3.5g salt
26g sugar
5g yeast
60g tangzhong
26g butter
You'll need slightly more yeast because wholemeal flour less gluten in it.
IF you use 50% of bread flour and 50% of wholemeal flour, am afraid your bread will not rise.
Make sure you proof at about 38C for it to rise nicely before baking.
Hope this is of help!
Hi Florence,
Thanks a lot for your advise. I will follow your recipe. But can you advise, for future recipes, what is the baker's percentage like? Btw, what happened to your Golden rule post? Has it been taken down? Thanks a lot Florence! I will keep you updated of the outcome. :)
Hi Florence,
May I know how much(as in weight) TZ would a 250ml water + 50g bread flour yield? Thanks :)
MayMay
MayMay,
Less than 300g of tangzhong!
Hi! I was wondering what kind of bread machine you were using. I would like to purchase one. You seem to get great results and your recipes are easy to follow.
hi florence!
your breads look fab :)
i have some questions abt tongzhong...i tried is just now but i made two portions - one is runnier and the other portion is thicker and more paste-like - i'm not sure which portion to use, as they both look like the colour of your tongzhong! any tips there?!?
btw, which brand/model of breadmaker do u use? I live in HK too so i might be able to get the same one as im thinking of investing in one ;)
i'm going to try the sausage buns tmr! hope they will come out well and thanks so much for your recipe! add oil with your baking adventures :)
Hi Florence, thank you for your wonderful recipes. I tried the tangzhong recipe and made buns with fillings yesterday. It was soooo good it disappeared in record time. So I attempted to make a loaf in the bread machine to save time last night. I added shredded cheese, ham and chopped onions. I left it in the pan overnight. Not sure what is the problem but the loaf baked fine but sank and it was very moist and lumpy at the bottom.
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Hi Florene.
I tried baking the wholemeal bread using the recipe advise by you. However, it didn't turn out as well as what I hope. I have a few questions on my bread:
1) It didn't rise to fill up the load pan & was very "short". Why was that so?
2) I found the yeast smell & taste too strong.
3) It wasn't sweet enough, was quite bland.
I added 40g of wholemeal into it, but before that, I soaked it in the milk.
I also want to know, is it necessary to use warm milk or water when using the water roux method?
I was taught in my baking school to use cold water so as to cool down the dough when we use the dough hook.
You can see the picture of my wholemeal bread here: http://bp1.blogger.com/_V-BVbN09rtE/R-N9GOfQ44I/AAAAAAAAFvE/Oz7Xh2RjQyk/s1600-h/IMG_8002.JPG
Thanks a lot Florence!
Hi Florence,
Thanks for the detailed guide on how to make TZ. I just tried it & added it to my wholemeal bread, it was yummy! Finally the wholemeal bread has a nice, nutty, fluffy texture! I used the basic recipe u posted & just replaced the flour with wholemeal bread flour & used za'atar spices. All done using my Kenwood bread machine.
Definitely will use this recipe for my future breads!
Btw, any tips on how to store the bread so it'll still be moist the next day? Thank u!
Hi Florence,many thanks for sharing all the mouth watering recipes.
May I ask if this "65°C Bread Loaf" is softer and more fluffy than the Hokkaido Milk loaf?
Sometimes is very mafan to go out to get just the whipped cream for the HML.
Will stick to this recipe if just as soft.
Thanks again
From vien
bluechillies,
I posted my bread machine.
Wendy,
My TZ is runny instead of paste-like but I guess you can use both and compare the texture.
Do let me know the outcome.
I posted my bread machine.
Passionate about baking,
The recipe that I posted for you had been done by many students and their bread were ok. Don't know why it didn't work for you.
Will post details for you when I next do the TZ wholemeal loaf.
Brenda,
Thank you.
Glad you liked it.
Vien,
I like the 65C better than the Hokkaido because "mafun" to get whipping cream.
Try it. :)
Hi Florence,
Thanks a lot. I will perserve to try again. I guess my skills are not up to standard yet. :p I will continue to try and see if it will improve. No worries! :)
Hi Florence,
Did your 65oC bread loaf but texture din come out nice like yours. The dough was very sticky. The next day I make another loaf of bread using my own recipe but adding in TZ and it came out very soft. Would like to know whether if we double the recipe for the wholemeal bread, then do we have to double the TZ? Thanks!
Thank you!
Florence, i just read all the posts about this bread making technique. thank you so much for translatin the recipe to English, it helps me so much!
delia,
If you double the recipe you have to double the TZ accordingly.
eliza,
You're welcome!
Hi Florence,
Thanks for the reply. I actually did make another wholemeal bread using another recipe and adding in TZ. It was very soft indeed. I gave your recipe of TZ to one of my friend and she also gave thumbs up for it. It is truly a very, very good recipe. Thanks once again.
Hi Florence, that bread looks so soft and delicate!
*How can I substitute bread flour with all-purpose and whole-wheat?
*When you said:"do the dough kneading twice in the dough cycle" ,does it mean after the first cycle you reset the machine and let it knead again?
Won't the machine burn?
Cuz the instruction of my bread machine said I should let the machine cool down before using it again.
*Can I use wooden spoon instead of whisk for stirring the TZ?
thank u for sharing recipe^0^
Hello Florence,
I am really tempted by this Tang Zhong method, thanks for the detailed recipe.
I have one question though - I live in France, we do not have the same types of flours. What exactly do you call bread flour? Is it plain, ot does it have additives, yeast, already included?
I will let you know how it turns out, once I make it.
Thanks.
Gracianne,
Bread flour is just high protein flour, it has no additives like yeast or anything else added.
Happy trying. :)
pulupulu,
How to knead twice using the bm dough cylce?
Let it do the mixing and kneading for the first 15 minutes of the dough cycle. After 15 minutes stop the dough cycle and restart it and let the cycle complete by itself this time.
Yes, you can use a wooden spoon.
You can use bread flour + wholemeal flour as the main dough but not the TZ. :)
Hi Florence, Tang Zhong is definitely new to me. Could you please advise whether TZ can be used in steam bun as well? Thank you.
Hi Florence,
I tried your 65oC Bread today and it comes out very very nice. Thank yo so much for your great recipe and detailed instruction. Can I publish this on my blog ? Hope that you will permit.
Have a nice day.
mg
hi Florence..
im making the 65°C Bread Loaf but the bread did not rise, when resting the dough what should i do? cover them up or just leave it out? What size loaf pan can i use, and also i do not have a loaf pan cover, what else should i use? aluminum foil?...
please help...
Thank you very much for your time.
I love baking,
Did you use a bread machine at all?
If you do not have a bread machine: - For the first prove, put the kneaded dough into a large stainless steel mixing bowl and cover it up with a piece of glad wrap and put it into an enclosed area for proving at about 28C.
** When I do not have a bread machine, I used to put the mixing bowl into my microwave oven(do not switch on the microwave) with a bowl of hot water to do my first prove. The microwave provided an enclosed environment and trapped the heat and moisture provided by the bowl of hot water making it very conducive for proving.
- After punching out the air, I put the dough back into the mixing bowl and rest it for 15mins at the same temperature as in first prove.
- Finally shape the dough and put it into your loaf pan and covered it with a piece of greased glad wrap and prove the dough at about 38C till it is about 80% full before you bake it.
Hope this is of help. :)
Hi,
The external size of my loaf pan is:
Length: 22cm
Width : 11cm
Height: 9.5cm
hi Florence,
I hv been following your blog and i wanted to say thank you so much for sharing this 65c TZ recipe.
i tried both the plain & wholemeal breads with great success.
everything was exactly as u said it would turn out!
for the wholemeal bread version, i did something crazy. i halved / quartered the amount of yeast, and let the dough proof for a few hrs. (i can't remember how long becuz i was busy doing other things at home). it rose nicely.
then, just as i was about to punch it down, i had to go out, and ended up leaving the dough in the fridge, when i came home after anohter 4-5 hrs, it had risen even further but it was too near bedtime, so i punched it down and left it in the fridge.
next morning, i was dismayed to find that the dough looked "collapsed" and was about to throw it away. i left it outside for a few hrs (while doing other household chores) and guess what? it rose and doubled nicely!
i managed to shape and bake as per your instructions - and it rose nicely and baked wonderfully. thank u florence!!
Canton pixie,
Thank you.
When you halved the yeast and chill the dough in the fridge for more than 12 hours, you are doing what is referred to as "low temperature fermantation (LTF)". This works very well and produces good product too!
When I worked with LTF, I chilled my dough for 17 -36 hours.
Good to know that in the end it turns out all well for your bread. :)
hi Florence,
i would like to learn more about the tz, would you please let me know which books were your reference? tks so much!
Canton Pixie,
The book is:
65C湯種
thanks Florence! is it by Yvonne C?
also, i wanted to consult u about your golden bread ratio. i couldn't find your post on it. did you take it down?
Florence,
Just wanna to let you know my family and I love this recipe. We think that it much better than the Hokkaido Milk Loaf!
This recipe has become the base for my loaves and buns.
Thanks so much for sharing the recipe. I am grateful and touched by your generosity.
Warmest regards,
Celine
Celine,
I like this TZ bread too!
Abit "mah fun" to always have whipping cream around to make the Hokkaido milk loaf.
It is also the base of many of my bread and buns bakes.
Hi Florence
Have tried several times using this 65% method in bread making. However, I could not get the results that you did. Please advice at which stage should I add the 'Tang Zhong' into the bread machine. What temperature should the 'Tang Zhong' be when being used?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
3princesses
3princesses,
For me, I put in water/milk/egg, sugar, salt, tangzhong, bread flour and yeast then start the dough cycle. About 8 -12 minutes later or when dough gathers into a ball form, add in the butter and let the machine continue with the kneading and then proving - this takes about 1 hr 20 minutes for my bread machine.
Use tangzhong at room temperature. It shouldn't be hot or cold when you use it.
Hi Florence, do you split TZ into individual 80gm portions before you freeze them for later use? I'm afraid TZ'll spoil easily if the unused portion is in & out of the freezer. Thanks *o*
sanrio3138
I cook as per the recipe and scale out the amount I need.
TZ cannot be freeze, only keep chilled in the refrigerator.
I will discard all unused TZ after 3 days.
If you need less, maybe cook half recipe of the TZ.
Dear Florence, I baked the bread on Monday. It was still soft the next day. Next, I would like to try your Wah Ko Kueh should you post the recipe. Thank you so much *o*
Good Job!: )
Hi Florence,
I saw that you answered 3princesses question. You mention that you added an egg? I have been trying to make the bread with no success. I didn't see your ingredients asking for an egg. Is that what I may be missing?
Hi,
I mean to say, add in all the liquid content first. If egg is needed then you add in else omit the egg. If you are doing this loaf bread no egg is needed. :)
Hi Florence,
Stumble onto your blog. I also find the Tang Zhong method of making bread interesting and decided to give it a try. It was good. Bread is soft and not dry. I left it outside for the next morning breakfast. Bread texture was still good. Thank you for sharing.
I have one question. Can you advice what is alkaline water use for?
Thanks again.
Hi Florence, I've baked the bread with your recipe and it turned out really well! Thanks for the very clear explanation.
May I post your recipe on my blog pls?
Regards
Cookie
Hi Floence,tis bread looks great n fluffy. i would like 2 try it. will it do if i put some filling such as coconut or red bean? in it? yhanks, hope 2 hear frm u soon.....
yanni,
If you want to add sweet filling, you should use this recipe instead:
http://wlteef.blogspot.com/2008/03/65c-chocolate-wassant.html
dear florence,thanks a million.... i'v baked the bread with ur recipe it turned out really nice my kids loved it so much... thanks for the recipe.
yanni,
Glad that you like it. :)
Hi Florence,
Thanks so much for sharing - excellent step-by-step method and recipe (even for beginner)- never heard of 65C Tang Zhong method until I found your website.
Simply just amazing result - the bread is so soft and fluffy. I didn't think it's possible to bake such soft bread at home.
Now I'm totally addicted to using this method to bake bread and may be add different fillings.
Love your website.
Thanks a bunch.
weekendbaker,
Thank you.
I love this 65C bread too!
Hi Florence,
I am absolutely blown away by your clear explanations of the 65C method. It is the first time I have heard of it. Thank you so much for sharing. I am in the USA and would like to where to order the book by Yvonne Chan. Is it in English as well? Please let me know!
Hi Florence, I stumble upon your blog by luck. I was scratching my head trying to figure out what is Tang Zhong from this recipe (if you are able to, would you try/translate this recipe, as it has some additional ingredient from yours??)
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/joe0363kimo/1794647
I tried your bread today. It's very good, but I didn't get the texture like yours on your picture. I'm not sure why? BTW, after you divide the dough to 2, do you place them in the same pan or two separate pans?
Thanks for sharing your recipe.
Hi Florence,
I would like to use your 65C method to make a simple Cantonese "chan pao" like they sell it in Hong Kong and Chinatown. It is a bread without filling. Hope you know what I am talking about. Any help will be appreciated. Wendy
Hi Florence, I tried 65C bread today, but the result is far fromyours :(
don't know why. my 65C is runny like yours, but the dough is so sticky that i had to add more flour, and more extra flour on the table too. also didn't rise well after 1 hour(final fermentation)
btw I dont have bread machine so I use my mixer to do these
p.s : I increase the sugar 140gr, is that too much? we love sweet bread, especially without filling
Hope u could reply my silly Q's..
million thanks!
rgds-YooLee
uh, I forgot, have u ever use this method to make pao?
anyway, gonna try the recipe again 2 days from now, I want to make super soft buns too...
rgds-YooLee
Hi Florence,
You mention to cover the TZ with cling wrap touching the surface of the mixture. Assuming I've just removed it from the fridge, after scaling out what is required, I suppose I need to cling wrap and "touch" the scaled out portion too?
Hi Florence,
Thanks for sharing, I tried and the result is wonderful!! May I link you in my post?? Thanks!!!
YooLee
I think your TZ is little too wet that is why your dough is sticky. Try cooking it a little longer.
140g sugar is a little too much. I think 60g - 75g should be sufficient.
Happy trying.
Reena,
After the TZ is cooled and scaling out what you need you can just wrap it normally with a cling wrap (no need to touch the surface of the TZ).
chicchicbaby,
You are most welcome!
Jenny Tan,
This is the translated version on the ingredients as in the Chinese wretch site that you gave me.
The only difference is the use of the milk enhancer. I used only natural products in all my bread, so I will do away with any flavour enhancer or bread softener. A good quality milk powder will do the same trick!
高筋麵粉270g Bread Flour
細砂糖43g Sugar
鹽4g Salt
乾酵母5.5g Dry Yeast
全蛋43g Egg
動物性鮮奶油30g Dairy Whipping Cream
牛奶27g Milk
湯種92g TZ
天然牛奶香料4g(可省略) Milk Flavour Enhancer (skip if you don't have this)
無鹽奶油25g(室溫軟化) Butter
Thanks for the translation, Florence!
Thanks very much for posting this recipe Florence. I tried it out over the weekend and it was FANTASTIC. As promised, the bread was still soft the next day although by the third day, I could feel that it's not as fresh but when I microwaved it, it was back to being just as soft. Best bread recipe I've come across. Thanks for sharing.
Jenny,
You're welcome.
Hi Anon,
Glad you like it.
Hi Florence ,
What is Tangzong. does it available in US?
I appreciate your answer .
Thanks
Kurungani
Kurungani,
You don't need to buy the TangZhong,
just cook it yourself.
All details about this TangZhong is written in this post. :)
Hi Florence,
Im making bread tmr. can u guide me clearly on how to prove the dough with the bread making machine? i hve searched several websites but still fail to understand.
Appreciate yr help :)
Ade
Adeline,
I'm sure you have a dough cycle in your bread machine. Choose the dough cycle and it will mix, knead and prove the bread dough. The whole process might take about 1hr 20mins. To prove actually means to rest the dough and let it double in size.
hi Florence,
shld i use instant yeast or active dry yeast?
in addition to my above comment,
i bought DRIED YEAST as the label on the bottle. i wonder if i can use tt? do i hav to dissolve in warm water before using?
appreciate yr help
ade,
You can use either both yeast.
No need to dissolve in water first if you are a 100% sure the yeast is alive or active.
thks for yr fast reply florence
i tried making the bread twice but i failed. it doesnt seem to rise even after 2 hrs. i use breadmaking machine for the kneading using the dough cycle but i gt to open the cover a few times to stir the mixture as my breadmakin machine dont seem to stir the flour mixture at the sides.
any idea why it doesnt rise. for the 2nd prove, i left it in microwave oven.
after i baked the bread, it is quite hard inside too nt soft at all. =(
any advice?
ade,
You should check if your yeast is active. If your yeast is already dead your dough will never rise.
Check out this site for yeast test!
http://www.ehow.com/how_4505037_proof-yeast-see-still-active.html
Florence,
Is there difference in dry and instant yeast?
Also if want to use the 65C dough same day? also must go to fridge and back to room temp? I am confused...
Patricia
Patricia,
No difference in dry yeast or instant yeast.
Cook the 65C dough and leave it to cool to room temperature before using. Any left-over 65C dough must be chilled in the refrigerator for later use. Discard the left-over if it has turned grey or if it is over 3 days old.
hi florence, would like to know what % of tangzhong is normally added in a recipe? does that affect the amt of water added? thanks
su
su,
Normally I used about 30% Tangzhong per 100g of flour weight.
Yes, if you using Tangzhong, I usually used about 42 - 44% liquid per 100g of flour weight.
hi florence,
Thanks for the recipe. I tried it last nite but it didnt turn out as i expected it to be. It rised beautifully,but the finished product looks raw. It taste quite sticky. I baked it in the oven for about 30 mins, 190 degrees.
Is it because the dough was too wet? I followed your steps provided closely.
After the final proofing, the dough was very sticky and soft, very difficult to shape to be put into the bread pan.
Should i reduce the amount of tangzhong used? or add more flour?
btw..i kneaded the dough in the BM for 40 mins..
Thanks,
Jay
hi florence, just wondering, according to ur portion of tz used, if i were to use 300g of flour, does it mean i will use 90g of tz and my liquids have to be adjusted to abt 130g??
also, wat is the difference in using both bread flour & plain flour or juz bread flour alone in the receipe??
sorry so many qns!!
Hi, I've tried out the recipe using a bread machine. I used the exact measurements you posted and baked the bread in the machine. The bread loaf turned out well and soft inside. My boyfriend said it was the best I've made (so far), even better than the Hokkaido bread. Thanks - B
Hi B,
Glad you liked it. You must be smiling from ear to ear after your boyfriend's compliments!
Florence thanks so much for sharing this recipe. The bread is really very very soft and tasty.
Hi Florence,
i'm inspired by your soft and fluffy looking bread. I do not have a bread machine. When I bake the bread manually, i will mix all the dry ingredients first, then add the wet ingredients like milk & eggs. in this case, when do i add TZ ?
thanks.
Hugbear,
You're welcome.
Glad you like the bread. :)
Hi,
You can treat the TZ as part of your wet ingredients.
Hi Florence, your blog is superb and i like it very much! I was so tempted to bake the 65C bread loaf after reading ur blog and i tried it yesterday. I have some queries : 1) The TZ dat i made was in liquid form and the dough turned out to be wet and sticky so i add in quite a bit of flour until it is no more sticky and more elastic, is it correct? Should the TZ be like paste form or liquid form? 2) How many times do i have to proof the dough? I actually proof once for 20 min then i punch out the air for 2-3 min then let it proof again for 20 min. After dis only i divided it into 2 portion and roll up in swiss-roll form to put in the loaf tin and let it proof for another 20 min before sending for baking. Do these procedures affect the result of baking? 3) The bread turn out to be 'dense' and a bit wet although the texture is quite soft. I do not know whether i did it wrong or not as this is my first attempt to bake a bread and without any bread machine. Hope you can give me some guidance. Thanks a bunch! :) eve
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