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Friday, August 19, 2005

Baked Mini Mooncakes

Today I tried a new recipe for baked mooncakes as my sister said that the mooncake pastry of the other recipe is a little tough. I am not sure what the texture of this pastry is as I have to wait for the baked mooncakes to "return oil" ( 回 油 ) which is about 3 days later before I can tell you which recipe is better.
Anyway, for those who are keen to try I have posted the recipe below.

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Ingredient: (6 mini mooncakes and extra for 1 piggy biscuit)
100g plain flour
30g peanut oil
65g golden syrup (Abram Lyles)
1/2 tsp alkaline water

Filling:
180g lotus seed paste
salted egg yolks (optional)
roasted melon seeds (optional)

Egg glace:
1 yolk + 1 tsp water lightly beaten and strain

Method:
1. Mix peanut oil, golden syrup and alkaline water together in a big cup and sit this cup in a bowl of boiling water. Stir till mixture is well combine. Remove and leave aside to cool till warm state but not cold.
2. Sieve plain flour into a mixing bowl. Make a well in the flour and pour in the warm syrup. Mix till a dough is formed. Cover the mixing bowl with a wet towel and rest the dough for 30 - 45 minutes.
3. Divide dough and filling according to the size of your mould. Shape the dough into a round flat sheet with sides thinner than the centre.
4. Wrap in the filling and mould it into a ball shape. Coat it with flour.
5. Dredge wooden mooncake mould with flour and put the mooncake into the mould. Flatten it with your floured palms and make sure that the mooncake fills up the mould nicely.
6. To dislodge the mooncake, bang the mould on a hard surface with equal force in the north, south, east and west direction.
7. Place mooncakes on a lined pan and spray the mooncakes with some water. Bake at 180C - 190C for 10 minutes. Remove from oven, cool the cakes for 5 - 10 minutes then apply egg glace and bake for another 10 - 15 minutes or till golden brown. As every oven varies, please standby to check on your mooncakes. If you are doing standard size mooncakes, the baking time might be longer.
8. Store cooled mooncakes in an airtight container and serve only after 3 days.

Notes:
Salted egg yolks
I soaked the yolks in 1 tbsp Chinese wine (紹興酒 or 玫瑰露) for 15 minutes.
I used raw yolks but you can bake it at 160C for 2 - 3 minutes.
If you are adding in egg yolk, wrap the yolk in the lotus seed paste.

Melon Seeds
I love to add melon seeds to my paste as it gives it an extra crunch and it occupies space so you use less paste...healthier...maybe!
I roast the melon seed in the oven at 160C and when they start popping, you can remove them from the oven.
Cool them before kneading into your lotus seed paste.

Scale
My mini mooncake mould can hold a total of 55g, so I used 25g pastry and 30g filling.
30g filling means lotus seed paste + melon seeds + salted egg yolk = 30g.
Of course you can use less pastry and more filling or vice versa depending on your preference.

Mooncake moulds differ in sizes, so please adjust weight of pastry and filling according to the size of your mould.

This is a published ratio of pastry to filling for baked mooncakes which I read from somewhere (couldn't remember where) and I have posted it here for your reference:
1st class mooncakes : 1 part pastry to 5 parts filling
2nd class mooncakes : 1 part pastry to 4 parts filling
Standard mooncakes : 1 part pastry to 3 parts filling

After notes (21/08/2005):
I used Abram Lyles Golden Syrup instead of Taikoo Golden Syrup for these mooncakes. I just found out from net friends that if you use this particular golden syrup, the mooncakes will be darker in colour.
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54 Comments:

At 19 August, 2005 23:14, Anonymous Angie said...

Florence,
u made that piggy, its cute.

 
At 20 August, 2005 08:18, Anonymous zermatt-gal said...

That piggy! The colour is so even and beautiful. You did a very good job in the glazing. We are waiting for the verdict.

 
At 09 September, 2005 08:22, Blogger Irene said...

Hi Florence,
Thanks for sharing the mooncake recipe.The piggy is cute. I have a question for you Florence. What is the purpose of spraying the mooncakes with water? This is very interesting because the cookbooks that I came across didn't say we have to. But I did see it once in the Kam Lun Tai's documentary on the making of their mooncakes. Thanks

 
At 09 September, 2005 18:47, Blogger Florence said...

Hi Irene,
To prevent the mooncake skin from cracking or blistering during the baking process. :)

 
At 09 September, 2005 21:38, Blogger Irene said...

Thanks Florence for answering my question.

 
At 12 September, 2005 08:32, Blogger Jas said...

Hi Florence,

On 2. Sieve plain flour into a mixing bowl. Make a well in the flour and pour in the warm syrup. Mix till a dough is formed. Cover the mixing bowl with a wet towel and rest the dough for 30 - 45 minutes.

Mix till a dough is formed into a “soft” dough? Cause my looks like a “thick” batter. Is it because I use “HK” flour instead of “Plain” flour?? And I use sunflower oil instead of peanut oil?

 
At 12 September, 2005 08:36, Blogger Florence said...

Hi Jas,
Use plain flour as different types of flour have different liquid absorption properties.
Peanut oil or sunflower oil is not a problem.
Did you check that you measure the ingredients correctly?
A dough and not thick batter should formed.

 
At 12 September, 2005 09:02, Blogger Jas said...

Thanks Florence, for the fast reply, I had just added about 20-30g HK flour to it. Although wasn’t as runny as just now but still “sticky” form. Any suggestion? Should I add more flour or should I let it rest for another 30 minutes?

As the measurement, I guess I had make no mistake hee hee I thrice the amount. I got
300g HK flour
90 ml oil
210 ml syrup and
1 ½ tsp alkaline

 
At 12 September, 2005 09:08, Blogger Florence said...

Hi jas,
Is the dough manageble? If not try to add another 10g of flour. Dough should be a little sticky but not sticky to the stage where you cannot handle it.
Put dough into plastic bag to rest instead of wet towel since your dough is very wet.
When shaping, place the weighted dough piece into a plastic/freezer bag and use your palm to flatten then wrap in the filling, this way easier to handle the dough. :)

 
At 12 September, 2005 09:28, Blogger Jas said...

Hi Florence,

Yah, I guess so it doesn’t stick to the mixing bowl anymore and it feel like lotus seed paste now. Thanks for the tips Florence! Oh do I need to spray water to the mooncake? Is it okay to bake at 180C for 20 to 30 minutes?

 
At 12 September, 2005 09:33, Blogger Florence said...

Hi Jas,
Yes, spray with water before baking!
Baking temperature and time depends on the size of mooncakes.
For standard size mooncakes, I bake at 170C - 180C for 18 - 20 minutes, remove from oven, cool for 15 minutes, egg glace and then bake again for another 15 - 20 minutes or till golden brown.
For mini-mooncakes, bake for 10 - 12 minutes, cool for 5 -10 minutes, egg glace then bake again for 10 - 12 minutes or till golden brown.

 
At 12 September, 2005 09:40, Blogger Jas said...

I got it! Thanks a billion Florence. Sorry taken some of your time.

 
At 12 September, 2005 09:43, Blogger Florence said...

Jas,
No problems at all!
Hope to see photo of your nice mooncakes soon. ^o*

 
At 14 September, 2005 14:28, Blogger Jas said...

Hi Florence,

Your Mooncake recipe is fantastic. The past two days I has been baking non-stop. Thank you for sharing the recipe. Absolutely worth trying!

 
At 14 September, 2005 14:52, Blogger Florence said...

Hi Jas,
Really glad to learn that you have such sucess in your first batch of mooncakes.

 
At 30 August, 2006 23:54, Blogger Missie said...

The mooncake was delicious. My friends love them even tho the skin of my mooncake is slightly hard. Do u think it is because I kept it in the fridge after baking?

 
At 09 September, 2006 12:49, Blogger michael said...

i've tried several recipes and yours will be the first with alkaline water in it.... where do i buy this? can i just pick it up in any asian grocery?

 
At 17 September, 2006 05:22, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow...u are great...mooncakes are not easy to make at all...

 
At 26 September, 2006 07:05, Anonymous Sonia said...

Hi Florence,

I was wondering how long do mooncakes stay fresh and edible? Can they be refrigerated or frozen to extend their lifetime?

Thanks,
Sonia

 
At 01 October, 2006 17:10, Blogger priscilla said...

heya florence,

what is alkaline water?? why do we need alkaline water??What is it for?

 
At 22 August, 2007 02:44, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Florence,
Your mooncake look very delicious, thanks for sharing the recipe.
Florence , may i ask you what is difference between plain flour and HK flour for making moon cake ? because i read that Jas had just added about 20-30g flour more when Jas made with HK flour ?

Thanks.

Tannie

 
At 22 August, 2007 08:16, Anonymous Siew Peng said...

Hi Florence,

I was wondering if there ia differenc btw using golden syrup and mooncake syrup?
Thanks!

 
At 22 August, 2007 09:31, Blogger Florence said...

Hi Tannie,
HK flour is a highly bleached flour, used mostly for paus. Surprisely, we do not have HK flour in HK. Guess it is only available in SE Asia.
Best to stick to plain flour or all purpose flour as different types of flours have different absorption properties and you might need to make adjustment to the oil and syrup amount if you don't use plain flour.
However, you might want to use HK flour and play around with the ingredients to get a pliable mooncake dough.

Happy trying. :D

 
At 22 August, 2007 09:34, Blogger Florence said...

Hi Siew Peng,
I guess it is ok to use either.
The syrup used for baking mooncake is also known as mooncake syrup.
The different type of syrup will give you different coloring to the baked mooncake.
For what I know, Lyle golden syrup gives a darker baked mooncake than Taikoo golden syrup. So I usually use a mixture of both.

 
At 22 August, 2007 20:41, Blogger suzhen said...

hi,
for the alkaline water, can i replace it with something else? or even omit it?

 
At 23 August, 2007 03:20, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Florence,
Thanks for your answering my question, your are very nice.
I think better I should follow your recipe exactly with plain flour for best result :)
I read and learn form Jas :)

Thanks

Tannie

 
At 02 September, 2007 23:41, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Florence, ur taipei trip look fun! Sure it is a happy journey.

im interested in ur mooncake recipe.the photos u post look delicious. can i know wat heat u r using to bake ur mooncake? R u using grill, fan or top heat?

aNn ;)

 
At 14 September, 2007 08:58, Blogger Yoke said...

hi florence,
my daughter is allergic to peanut. can i use corn oil/olive oil i/o peanut oil?
thanks!

 
At 14 September, 2007 10:31, Blogger Florence said...

Hi Yoke,
Yes, use corn oil.

 
At 15 September, 2007 21:07, Blogger Yan's Delites said...

Florence,
your mooncakes are wonderfully tempting !!
i tried to make the baked mooncakes & failed so far.
whenever i mix the warm syrup to the flour portion, i always get sticking dough. no matter how much flour i add in after that to remedy & of coz it was totally impossible to knead. what could i have done wrongly?
pls advise.

(pardon my lacking skills in this.
sighz.)

cheers,
yan

 
At 16 September, 2007 03:33, Blogger MICHELLE said...

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At 16 September, 2007 03:42, Blogger MICHELLE said...

Florence

Wow ... the mooncakes look so good. I would not dare attempt to try ... you did a great job!!!

 
At 16 September, 2007 10:43, Blogger Florence said...

Michelle,
It is not that difficult. I think using a plastic mould is more efficient and easier to handle. You only need to prepare the mooncakes skin and you can use ready made lotus paste which you can buy from bakery or Chinese Restaurant that serve dim sum.

 
At 16 September, 2007 10:50, Blogger Florence said...

Yan's delites,
What kind of flour did you use?
I tried with several types of flour and the results are all different.
Therefore flour is an important factor, if all other ingredients are identical to what is stated in the recipe.
I used White Wings plain flour!

 
At 16 September, 2007 17:57, Blogger Yan's Delites said...

Florence :

i used cake flour previously & changed it to all purpose plain flour last nite.

though i manage to get a dough this time, but still didnt get the right softness from the baking, maybe its the baking timing this round or the way i mix the dough.

gosh, this is challenging! *surrending white flag soon. maybe just stick to making only snowskin moonies...* =p

rgds
yan

 
At 16 September, 2007 19:36, Blogger Florence said...

yan,
The skin of the baked mooncakes will soften after they have "returned oil", which is about 3 days after.

 
At 16 September, 2007 21:43, Blogger Yan's Delites said...

Florence,
you are such a dear, so encouraging.
alrite, i will patiently wait for this batch that were made last nite to "return oil" 1st & then update you.
*hugs*
cheers, yan

 
At 17 September, 2007 15:50, Blogger Yan's Delites said...

Hi Florence
the moonies turned out great !

view my blog http://zelphyr.blogspot.com/.

thank you !!!

cheers,
yan

 
At 10 October, 2007 10:37, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Florence,

Can u tell me wat the alkaline water does for the pastry. do u have to put it or can we omit al2gether

thanking u
mimi

 
At 10 October, 2007 12:28, Blogger Florence said...

mimi,
The alkaline water is to:
1) Improve the elasticity in the dough
2) Give it its golden color
3) Neutralizes the acidity of the syrup.
If you omit the alkaline water, the imprint of the mooncake might not be clear and the pastry might not hold its shape and just become a blob after it is being baked.

 
At 19 October, 2007 18:02, Blogger L4niee said...

hi florence,

what is alkaline water ?

 
At 25 July, 2008 18:51, Blogger Reena said...

Hi Florence,where can i get alkaline water? I'm from Penang,Malaysia..Thanks.

 
At 25 July, 2008 19:46, Blogger Florence said...

Hi,
Alkaline water or lye water is also known as "kan sui", you can get them from baking supply shops, bakeries or those shops selling chinese confectionery

 
At 30 August, 2008 22:25, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Florence,
Mooncake festival is round the conner. So i tried out your recipe and find that is really work. I will have more confidence & chances trying your other recipes too. Really Thanks

 
At 06 September, 2008 12:03, Anonymous Rynnie said...

hi er!
lovely piggy! am just wondering what would e ingredients be if i were to just make e piggy biscuit? can i also add in the lotus paste or will it be too 'full' for the mould to take in the filling? how much would the ingredients be to make approxiamtely 20 such piggy?
i'm glad to see the piggy cos that's what i've always wanted to do, something light n cute for loved ones. many tks in advance!

 
At 08 September, 2008 00:19, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Florence,

Your mooncakes looks real nice n thanks for the recipe.

I hv tried baking it today. Somehow, the skin turned out hard/crispy, do u know where I hv gone wrong.

I hv followed your instruction very closely except I hv changed the syrup to maple syrup, could this be the caused? or I didnt knead enough for the dough? or i didnt spray enough water before baking?

Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks again, jrc

 
At 09 September, 2008 16:23, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Florence,

Thanks so much for your wonderful recipes. I have made many mooncakes using your recipes and also others from books.

However, I have this ONE problem that cannot be fixed and I am wondering if you can help me.

I use the lotus paste from a bakery shop, already pre-packaged so all I do is make the skin.

However, the problem I face is that whenever my mooncake is done, the pastry skin of the mooncake becomes very very oily and does not look like the shop's mooncake skin. My mooncake skin is completely oily and darkened as a result of all the oil.

But when I eat the skin, it tastes ok and not oily but just looks oily and not very appetizing. Everything else is ok--taste, shape, pattern of the design on the skin.

Please help! Any advice will be heartily appreciated.

Thank you,
Siew Mee

 
At 14 September, 2008 08:17, Blogger Florence said...

Siew Mee,
I think your problem is the lotus paste or filling. The oil from your paste seeped into the pastry part of the mooncakes.

 
At 06 September, 2009 15:42, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Florence,
I would want to ask what is the function of alkaline water in making mooncake biscuit?
ong

 
At 07 September, 2009 16:09, Blogger Pauline Wong said...

Hi! Florence, would like to know where can I get the golden syrup? I have tried asking around but still cannot get it hope you could help me on this.

 
At 14 September, 2009 13:01, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi pauline wong, you can buy the syrup at kwong cheong thye, 61 geylang lor 27, off sims ave, singapore. call them 1st.

 
At 15 September, 2009 21:51, Blogger FantasyElf said...

Hello,
Thank you for the lovely recipe. I tried making them but the nice imprint of my mould doesn't stay after i bake them. I did add alkaline water,hmm... anyway to make the imprint stay after baking?
thank you!

 
At 06 October, 2009 16:58, Blogger halu402 said...

Hi Florence,

The colour of mooncakes are very even and so nice... can u guide me how to bake it?

 

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